In the Mud with Vanessa Gobes

In the Mud with Vanessa Gobes
“Once you realize that something is not serving you in any way that's joyful or helpful …, then you can start to release it. But until you're ready, this practice won't call to you.”
- Vanessa Gobes

On this episode of the Plan Simple Meals Podcast, I’m really excited to talk with Vanessa Gobes, co-founder of The Chrysalis Center, about transformation. We talk about the huge transformations she made in her own life and why she started the Chrysalis Center.

We talk about meditation as a tool that can change your brain (and your life), but only if you are ready. If you aren’t ready to give up the stories that aren’t serving you, if you can’t let go of your own bullshit, then this practice won’t help. But if you ready to change, it’s a powerful tool.

Another strategy Vanessa offers is being with what is. She talks about being in the mud, and how if we get curious and explore that feeling of not wanting to be in the mud, we can come to a greater understanding. We tend to want to fight against being in the mud, but we can learn so much and change in good ways if we can be in those tough situations.

We talk about:

  • Stripping out what doesn’t serve you and following joy
  • Different ways to practice meditation and why 10 minutes a day can change you
  • How chakras fit in with meditation
  • Trusting that things will work out and that we will have what we need when times are hard
  • Cultivating relationships with people we can turn to when we need them
  • Setting yourself up for success with the right transitions—in meditation and life


Calling all women balancing wellness, work, family and self… Learn a 15-minute daily practice and go to bed each night proud of what you got done.

    Doable Changes

    PLAN TIME FOR TRANSITIONS. Whether you are meditating, getting dinner on the table, or trying to get your kids out the door, leaving enough time for transitions sets you up for success. Before you start to meditate, simply observe your surroundings. Give your kids notice that they need to get ready (if you know it takes them 20 minutes to put shoes on, start them on that early). When you schedule things on your calendar, be realistic about transitions.

    MEDITATE. Even 10 minutes a day can make a huge difference. Check out the brief meditation Vanessa did with us in this show, or use an app like Insight Timer to help you develop a practice. I like to meditate first thing in the morning, but find the time that works for you and write it in your calendar.

    GET CURIOUS ABOUT DISCOMFORT. We will all be in situations that are uncomfortable. Instead of fighting against them, try just getting really curious about how it really feels, what we don’t like about it. We can choose to change, but first we need to see where we are.

    From Overwhelm to Ease


    Vanessa Gobes coaches women and men through the darkest parts of parenthood (and life) with humor and humility, demonstrating that even the worst challenges can be viable paths to healing, insight and joy when approached with curiosity. Since co-founding Chrysalis in 2015, her teachings have stretched beyond mindfulness, exploring how spirit can be more readily accessed through insight practices. Vanessa is a happily unmarried mother of several and author of the upcoming perscriptive memoir “Metta Mom: A Mindful Guide to Managing Your Mood & Your Brood,” represented by Corvisiero Agency NYC.


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