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Clutter With Kate Varness
There's internal and external clutter ... and the key is to clear the internal clutter and everything else can line up. - Kate Varness

Clutter with Kate Varness

On this episode of the Plan Simple Meals Podcast, I’m really excited to talk with Kate Varness, a professional organizer about our stuff and the internal stuff that goes with it. Kate started her organizing work when she had three kids under 5. 

A lot of the people Kate works with are in a period of life transition. Often times a change has happened, and they haven’t quite caught up in their life. They need to figure out the skills they need, the stuff they need, and the help they need for their present situation. 

I noted that sometimes when I’m feeling overwhelmed, I declutter something and that opens up space to have ideas. But Kate wrote that sometimes we actually can’t let go and declutter some of the things in our physical space if we don’t have an idea of where we’re going. We have trouble letting go of stuff that is tied to identity if that identity is changing because we don’t have a new idea to fill it. 

We talk about: 

  • Tuning into and honoring your own desires (do I like this? Do I not like this?)
  • Brainstorming a list of things you want to do or ever wanted to try
  • Getting past the idea that your value as a human is based on what you do or how much money you make
  • Getting out of your comfort zone and the space for change it creates
  • When decluttering start with what’s easy—find 15 things to trash or donate each day, work through the things you are pretty sure about and then move on to the things you are more ambivalent about
  • Learning to receive and believe you are worthy


Kate is an author, speaker, coach, professional organizer, and the founder of Green Light Organizing and Coaching who loves helping women live their best life. She’s a Certified Professional Organizer specializing in Chronic Disorganization (CPO-CD) and a Certified Organizer Coach (COC). Kate understands that organizing and life solutions need to be practical and family-friendly. It’s not about a pristine, perfect house, but about mindset shifts and gaining momentum that goes beyond an organized house. 


101 doable changes
Choose from the changes above or download a list of 101 Doable Changes we made for you.

Doable Changes from this episode:

  • TUNE INTO YOUR DESIRES. If you are taking care of others, it can be easy to lose sight of what you really want. As you go through your day, ask yourself: Do I like this? Do I want to do this? Start by noticing. Then try saying yes to something that you want. How does it feel?

  • GET OUT OF YOUR COMFORT ZONE. Challenge yourself to do one new thing every day for a week. Wear a temporary tattoo, burst into song in the grocery store … whatever it is. The goal is to move out of your comfort zone and notice what happens to the way you think.

  • CHECK YOUR ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE. What’s the worst-case scenario? If you are feeling stuck about letting go of something or making a decision, ask what the worst-case scenario is? Think about how you could handle that. Does it change how you feel about letting go or your decision? 


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